David it is still close to that, but the they didnt drill though the knee cap, they attach anchor hooks and then run super heavy sutures, whatever that means, back to qluad. It does hurt pretty bad still today. I am in a brace from hip to ankle and am allowed to put "toe Pressure" on it while I walk with a walkier or crutches. A long recovery I guess. Thanks for all the good thoughts and wishes everyone. It is weird to be home since I have been working 7 days a week for years. Oh well, if my wife doesnt kill me I will make it through this. I wish I had a picture of me scooching my big butt in the back seat of a Honda Civic to get home from the hospital. Lets make some trades, I should have plenty of time for a while now. Pat