Crappy mail day for me today

greatdadx2

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I received two trades today in the mail...Both of these trades had unrelated problems...

1st PWE I open was a BV card of $25....a third of the envelope, cardboard inside the envelope, and top loader bent...card had to go in the garbage....why is it ok to send a higher BV card in a PWE, especially when you know I have to send your end in a Bubble mailer or am I the only one that thinks if I'm gonna send BV cards of $5+ in a bubble mailer is the RIGHT thing to do?

2nd PWE I received had not one, two, three, or five cards in it....but 12 cards in the PWE----- TWELVE----- Flabbergasting, I don't get it, so of course you can imagine how tightly stuffed one of those top loaders was with six cards in it, so a couple of the cards were damaged because of that....I wouldn't send TWELVE 5 cent cards in a PWE if it is going to your collection, let alone TWELVE $3 cards.

I did notice under both of these traders though that they had a 4.90 rating, I guess I am going to have to take a closer look at that before making a trade, and to me that is extremely unfortunate and disappointing....where has common sense gone?

Had to vent and hoping someone will think twice before packaging cards after reading this.
I can only hope
Robert

If those two traders would like to send me a PM and let me know the reasoning, I would like the knowledge, because I am clearly missing something.
 
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David K.

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I heard you buddy! I was going to mail 5 Topps Finest cards in a pwe....but it was to much so I used a bubble envelope...normal only three or four thin cards for pwe.......everything else bubble envelope! Cost more ...but worth it as far as peace of mind. Best regards, David
 
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greatdadx2

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Trader that sent me the 12 cards in the PWE, sent me a PM....no apology, no admitting wrong, and no offer to fix the situation. AMAZING.

Check those trader ratings before making a trade or double check the way they are going to send your cards. Even a 4.90 rating is not good.
 

Scobes

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The way I feel about shipping is that as long as the card(s) gets to me safely I do not care how it is sent - PWE, Priority boxes, bubble mailer, or just a stamped toploader (ha!). So, if there are 12 cards in a PWE and they are not damaged, I don't mind. If cards are damaged, however, the trader should definitely fix the situation with other cards or paypal. That should be the standard for any deal. That does stink that you've had to deal with this twice in one day!

Scobes
 

Mike121

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I'm in agreement with @Scobes. I'd probably frown upon getting an expensive card in a PWE, but as long as it gets to me safe I'd be fine with it.

If it were damaged, however, I'd definitely be looking at the sender to make it right.
 

Platnum71

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Anytime I send PWE (regular or business) I go to post office and have them sent non machinable, they cost you $0.15 cents more, which is way worth it for it not to go through their sorter and get possible damage.

did you let them know or leave those traders a bad shipping rating?
 

akamikey2001

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Sending cards in a PWE is and always has been the cheaper alternative. Sending 1-2 thin cards is safe anything after that it starts to get risky. I'm ok with sending a $10-15 card but anything after that it's all about what david mentioned "peace of mind". If i have to send 5 cheaper cards i would use 2 PWE's. It still cost a lot less vs using a bubble envelope. Sending game-used in a PWE doesn't work unless its thin like a 2002 ud diamond connection bat or jersey.

12 cards inside 1 PWE is to many. It's the traders responsibility to get the cards to the other trader in a safe manner. Nobody likes damaged cards so i would say replacement cards are in order or just send back your end or void the trade.
 

mrmopar

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Unless the PWE in trade 1 was agreed upon, I say you out both of them to warn others of poor shipping practices.

I recently received an ebay purchase, it was a GU card and it was somehow squeezed into a toploader that was too small. It took me several minutes to free the stupid thing. That may not sound like a bid deal, but a flipping card should easily slide out of a holder with minimal effort. It should not take MINUTES to free a card from a toploader. Irresponsible seller with poor handling etiquette. There are just too many clueless or apathetic people shipping things these days. No bend protection, cards loose in holders so they can slip out, fragile items not protected from crushing, tight toploaders and envelopes so tight to an object it is nearly impossible to open it, because in addition to that, the SOB tapes the entire F'ing envelope too! Do I seem upset at this type of thing? You should too. It's stupid and easily preventable with a sliver of commons ense.

MY basic minimum expectation for cards being mailed should be a padded or rigid cardboard mailer, unless something else is agreed upon ahead of time. The cost of mailing cards has gone up so much that it almost is not worth mailing low end cards any longer. It is unfortunate, but then again that is what a site like COMC is supposed to help remedy.
 

89Giants

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As soon as I read "12 cards in a PWE" I knew who it was. I remember thinking why is this guy agreeing to such a small BV trade when I can ship my end in a pwe and he has to pay $3+ for bubble mailer shipping? I recall the cards making it, albeit sticking out half way out of the long pwe. I know I gave him a 1 star where it needed to be, so thats most likely why the trader rating was below 5.0. Sometimes if I do a smaller trade with 6 or less standard size cards I will use 2 pwe's to ship, and I've never had an issue. If you use a card saver 1 it fits nicely and is under 1oz. I never ship GU in PWE as I've received several with creases and again, I gave them a 1 star for condition. If I trade a GU I make sure the trade is at least $30 in value to make it worth it to ship in PWE. Always tape card saver/top loader to the inside of the pwe so it doesnt move around and is less likely to get damaged or fall out in transit.
 

katester44

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It is a sick feeling to open up a package/pwe and see that the card you had traded for is damaged. I have a stack of numbered inserts, GU'd, etc., etc. that are destroyed. Just don't have the heart to throw them out, because I really like the card.

PWE's are tricky - you have to put the right protections in place and you can't over-fill them. The most cards I have ever put in a PWE is 4. After that it is bubble mailer only.
 
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