WTTF 2023 Topps Update and a bit of a rant for Fanatics

[jflan702]

First off, 2 Hobby boxes and 2 Blaster boxes were ordered direct, they shipped the blasters and listed the hobby as shipped, but they were missing. They corrected the problem and shipped the hobby boxes a day after I called in the problem. Anyone else have issues with their shipments this year?
These boxes resulted in 16 cards short for the first set and only half of a second set. This is due to the shady change that Fanatics did with the reduction in packs and cards per pack in the hobby boxes. No announcement about the reduction in product, but they kept that price the same.

They claim that the reduction results in better odds for a couple of numbered cards per box. That to me is just gaslighting. They can pound sand with that reasoning. I remember when you got inserts and numbered cards in every pack. And the value of the current numbered cards is bogus, they aren't worth anything on the secondary market. And don't even start with their spectacular collating process.

I believe that these are going to be the last boxes that I open directly from Fanatics. It is probably well past time for me to start working backwards on my vintage sets. Looks like my run of Topps sets ends at 53 years. Too bad Fanatics/Topps, you really screwed up this time.

Am I alone in my thinking? I haven't seen very many trade posts for 2023 Topps Update, so I am thinking that there were not many boxes opened.

Here are the 16 cards that I need for my first set. Too many to list for a second set. I know about the double printing of #149 and no card #250.

2023 Topps Update #50, 192, 195, 244, 274

* - incoming

And since there are so few cards in these boxes, I actually will list all of my extras available for trade. Usually I have a box full so I don't list numbers, but this year is so light, here are my extras for trade.

2023 Topps Update extras for trade: #8, 19, 22, 36, 37, 42, 49, 52, 53, 54, 79, 92, 96, 106, 124, 125, 130, 134, 135, 138, 186, 188, 204, 224, 226, 227, 264, 265, 281, 284, 293, 302, 303, 306, 318, 322, 327

Are there any Update set builders this year or am I working on a dog set?

Thanks,

 

[tribefan]

The quality and the value of all products seems to be dumping across the board.

$25+ for a 2023 Bowman Platinum blaster and the packs repeated (three completely identical packs).
The worst part was half the packs look like the sheet was sent through the black ink/plate an extra turn and they all look "smeared" and out-of-focus. And, just ugly cards... it's disappointing.

I realize it's retail so not much should be expected. But, they can't even get the base cards correct.

And, I originally had a blaster and a "Mega" box. When the Mega rang up at $90, I put it back.
So glad I did!

 

[crankbait09]

I bought two hobby boxes of Update, but I can't say I was disappointed. I ended up being 1 card short of a complete base set. Now Panini, that's where my issues are. but that's for a different thread.

as for your wants above, I have these: 72, 81, 191, 230, 274. any chance you can hit any of my set needs?

 

[jflan702]

I bought two hobby boxes of Update, but I can't say I was disappointed. I ended up being 1 card short of a complete base set. Now Panini, that's where my issues are. but that's for a different thread.

as for your wants above, I have these: 72, 81, 191, 230, 274. any chance you can hit any of my set needs?

I looked at your www, but I only collect the base Topps sets, so I don't have anything that you need. Do you need anything from earlier years or just 2023?

Thanks,

 

[crankbait09]

just 2023, my sets are completed up to this point.

 

[metsman1986]

I purchased a jumbo for $200 w/tax and got a complete set with about 30 dupes (butt load of inserts too plus an extra hit)......I'll see what you need a little later tonite...........Mike

 

[metsman1986]

No luck in my stack……..Seems like my dupes are yours…….Good luck with the set……..Been there before, unfortunately…….

 

[jflan702]

just 2023, my sets are completed up to this point.

OK, thanks for looking. Maybe next time.

Thanks,

 

[jflan702]

No luck in my stack……..Seems like my dupes are yours…….Good luck with the set……..Been there before, unfortunately…….

I Appreciate you taking the time to check. Seems like this set is going to be tough for everyone.

Thanks,

 

[togaman]

Bought a blaster box today and a $24.99 box at Barnes & Noble and didnt make a single dent in my base set and only 12 card toward a second set which still has around 100 cards to go. No more 2023 Update boxes for me this year.

2023 Topps Update Set # 1 Want List (318/330)
25,46,55,60,77,91,99,149(Stout),172,223,233,250 (I'm told card # 250 may not exist as 149 card is both Stout and Teoscar Hernandez))

2023 Topps Update Dupes to Trade (trade any I have 2 or more of for base cards)
6(RC),9(RC),15(Mason Miller-RC),16,21,22(3),24(Vaughn Grissom-RD-2),26(RC-2),28(2), 29(RC),35(Grayson Rodriguez-RC/RD-2),36(Royalty),39,40(Bobby Miller-RC/RD),41(Scorching Start-Morel-2),42(RC-2),43(2),44,47,49(Oak-Rookie Combos),52,54(RC-2),62,64,65,66(Michael Busch-RC/RD),72,74(RC),75(Noda-RC-2),76(2),78,79(3),81,85(Nolan Jones-RC),90,92,93(Logan O’Hoppe-RC/RD),98(Zach Neto-RC),106(2),107(Bibee-RD-2),111(RC-3), 115(2),116(RC-2), 119,120(2),122(Jordan Walker-RC/RD-3),124(RC-2),125,128,130,131,137(3),139(Eury Perez-RC),140,142(Miguel Vargas-RC/RD),
143(Atlanta Bats Awaken-Acuna/Arcia-2),148(Garret Mitchell-RC/RD-2),151,152,157(2),159(JP France-RC),160(RC), 162(RC),169(3),171,173,174(RC),176(2),178(Bryce Miller-RC), 180(Adley Rutschman-RC/RD),184,186(RC-3),191,194,196(RC),197,198(Casey Schmitt-RC/RD-2),199(RC-3),203,204,
205(Oscar Colas-RC/RD-2),211(2),217(3),219(3),220(RC),222(Julien-RC-2),225(Michael Harris-RD-3),227,230,231,235,238(RC),240,243,245(RC-2),249(2),256(Michael Busch-RC-2),263(2),267(RC-2),273,275,276(2),280(2),282(RC),283,285,286(RC-2),290(Gabriel Moreno-RC/RD),291(2),295(2),297(2),
300(Bellinger-2),301,302(City Swap),308(Josh Jung-RC/RD-2),312,316(Joey Weimer-RC/RD-2),317(Eury Perez-RC/RD),320(RC),321,326,327,329(Zach Neto-RC/RD)

 

[David K.]

I have theses from your wantlist US: 30, 50, 192, 195, 206, 208, 244 & 296. Fanatics/Topps is getting worse.....2023 Topps Chrome Update will be the same as the 2023 Topps Update......Hobby & retail will have fewer cards ...but higher prices! Only the Jumbos have the same number of cards. Best regards, David

 

[togaman]

I have these from your 2023 Update want List
16,72,81,191,,230

I can use these 55,99,233 plus whatever you can spare or pick from
10.95,121,138,158,188,200,218,224,226,271,278,293,303

 

[jflan702]

I have these from your 2023 Update want List
16,72,81,191,,230

I can use these 55,99,233 plus whatever you can spare or pick from
10.95,121,138,158,188,200,218,224,226,271,278,293,303

Hi bud,

How about these for the 5 that you have for me?

10, 55, 95, 99, 121, 200, 218, 233, 271, 278

If that works for you, please post it up.

Thanks,

 

[davids5505]

First off, 2 Hobby boxes and 2 Blaster boxes were ordered direct, they shipped the blasters and listed the hobby as shipped, but they were missing. They corrected the problem and shipped the hobby boxes a day after I called in the problem. Anyone else have issues with their shipments this year?
These boxes resulted in 16 cards short for the first set and only half of a second set. This is due to the shady change that Fanatics did with the reduction in packs and cards per pack in the hobby boxes. No announcement about the reduction in product, but they kept that price the same.

They claim that the reduction results in better odds for a couple of numbered cards per box. That to me is just gaslighting. They can pound sand with that reasoning. I remember when you got inserts and numbered cards in every pack. And the value of the current numbered cards is bogus, they aren't worth anything on the secondary market. And don't even start with their spectacular collating process.

I believe that these are going to be the last boxes that I open directly from Fanatics. It is probably well past time for me to start working backwards on my vintage sets. Looks like my run of Topps sets ends at 53 years. Too bad Fanatics/Topps, you really screwed up this time.

Am I alone in my thinking? I haven't seen very many trade posts for 2023 Topps Update, so I am thinking that there were not many boxes opened.

Here are the 16 cards that I need for my first set. Too many to list for a second set. I know about the double printing of #149 and no card #250.

2023 Topps Update #16, 30, 50, 72, 81, 191, 192, 195, 206, 208, 209, 230, 244, 270, 274, 296

And since there are so few cards in these boxes, I actually will list all of my extras available for trade. Usually I have a box full so I don't list numbers, but this year is so light, here are my extras for trade.

2023 Topps Update extras for trade: #8, 10, 19, 22, 36, 37, 42, 49, 52, 53, 54, 55, 59, 79, 89, 92, 94, 95, 96, 99, 106, 107, 118, 121, 124, 125, 130, 134, 135, 136, 138, 141, 158, 166, 186, 188, 189, 197, 200, 204, 218, 224, 226, 227, 233, 264, 265, 271, 278, 281, 284, 290, 293, 302, 303, 305, 306, 318, 322, 327

Are there any Update set builders this year or am I working on a dog set?

Thanks,

I have the following cards that you need: #US30, 206, 208, 270 and 296. From your trade list I need: US107, 158, 197, 278, 290, and 305. Please leet me know if we can work out a trade.
Thanks,
Dave

 

[togaman]

Hi bud,

How about these for the 5 that you have for me?

10, 55, 95, 99, 121, 200, 218, 233, 271, 278

If that works for you, please post it up.

Thanks,

OK will do. I posted up trade. Dont forget to confirm in transactions so I can get your mailing address

 

[jflan702]

I have the following cards that you need: #US30, 206, 208, 270 and 296. From your trade list I need: US107, 158, 197, 278, 290, and 305. Please leet me know if we can work out a trade.
Thanks,
Dave

Hi Dave,

I traded #278 in my trade with togaman. Do you need any others? Anything else that I could look for? I have the others pulled for you.

Thanks,

 

[dragonslayer913]

John I have 208 209 270 My 23 Topps Update wants are listed on MY SITE link in sig Best David

 

[katester44]

Feel your pain -- opened 2 hobby boxes and one jumbo, 13 cards shy of my normal 2 sets. Hobby boxes were a waste of cash - should have just bought 2 jumbos.

From your traders, I can use:
59, 89, 94, 118, 136, 141, 158, 166, 189

Don't have any base that match your set #1 needs - but could help you out on a 2nd set if you are building?

 

[jflan702]

John I have 208 209 270 My 23 Topps Update wants are listed on MY SITE link in sig Best David

Hi David,

I found these from your www set want lists:

2023 Topps 263, 467, 649
2021 Topps 67, 112

Let me know how close we are.

Thanks,

 

[jflan702]

Feel your pain -- opened 2 hobby boxes and one jumbo, 13 cards shy of my normal 2 sets. Hobby boxes were a waste of cash - should have just bought 2 jumbos.

From your traders, I can use:
59, 89, 94, 118, 136, 141, 158, 166, 189

Don't have any base that match your set #1 needs - but could help you out on a 2nd set if you are building?

Hey bud,

I have all of the ones you listed except 158, as it is in one of the other trades that is working.

Here are some of the ones that I need for my second set. Let me know if you have any.

1, 4, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33, 34, 38, 41, 43, 46, 47, 48, 50, 56, 58, 60, 66, 67, 68, 71, 72, 73, 74, 76, 80, 81, 83, 84, 88, 91, 98

Thanks