2009 Unnumbered Bowman Red - Backdoored or Giveaways?

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Imagine paying big $ for a Red 1/1 to find out there are at least 23...correction, 100 more out there. Waiting to fall into the wrong hands and make yours a 1/24.

These are listed in the Beckett database.

Here's what was recently sold on ebay

673 of these were sold. 70 players.

Quantities of players varied from 1-20. Only Fielder had 20.

I have 19 of Belliard and I have seen 4 uncut sheets. Plus a shipping label that says 100 of the sheet I posted was shipped. So there are around 100 known unnumbered Red cards for all the players on this sheet. Safe to assume there are many more out there. Since the ebay seller had a max of 20 for one player, there are many more of these cut cards that were not listed on ebay. Will a fake 1/1 Red Zimmerman show up in a display case at a card show? Slowly leaked out on ebay? Used as trade bait to a unsuspecting collector? Unfortunate...

I have a full sheet incoming. Once I get it I will post pics on here and a list of all the players. 132?

Someone said....

Those unnumbered red 09 Bowman are from uncut sheets topps gave out to their distributors. My local card shop gave out 1 uncut sheet for every 09 bowman box you bought. I own 4 of the sheets. They say "property of the topps co/not for resale" on the bottom of the sheet. Somebody must have has theirs professionally cut.

Someone else said...

2009 Bowman Sterling Football Red 1/1 were given to distributors as full sheets. Without sticker or Jersey. Cut up and many were sold on ebay around Jan/2010
Another collector recalled seeing the same with the 2008 cards.


How long until scammers start stamping these? So is this Topps fault? Or the outsourced printer? Was Upper Deck the printer and leave the backdoor open again? Was anyone held accountable? Were these actually given to distributors as a gift or backdoored?

Would a simple email to either company really accomplish anything..... Didn't think so. But it wont hurt to try. So where do we go from here to prevent this from happening again? I have pics of Red Chrome 1/1 and a Superfractor sheet. You can see doubles of some players. Where do the extras go? Are they "safe". Are Superfractor sheets next? Or do we all wait until "our" card we paid alot of money for is leaked out and stamped until we do something?

I will update this thread as info becomes avail.



Here are 19 unnumbered and the real numbered 1/1 I recently picked up.









 
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I ended up buying one of these uncut sheets. I'll post pics tomorrow.

Players on the sheet-

Swisher Cruz Markakis Greinke A. Ramirez Utley Galarraga Dunn Sanchez Zimmerman Parnell Ibanez Cook Berkman Victorino Jacobs Dewitt Outman Atkins Polanco Bedard Longoria Cueto Wells Webb Reyes Davis Francoeur Fowler Weaver Maysonet Soriano Bradley Ordonez Abreu Sandoval Fielder Jaso Duchscheror C.Young Kotchman Belliard Posada Beltran Furcal Youkilis Rodriguez Martinez Drew Byrd Hughes DeJesus Braun Beckett M. Ramirez C. Young Herdon Hermida Ellsbury Miranda Garza Kershaw D. Lee Lincecum Griffey Jr. Hardy Jurrjens Pena Jeter Hudson C. Lee Nady Molina Volquez Molina Soto Konerko Maine Coke Jones McClouth Cano Olsen Werth Smith Drew Carpenter Morneau Sabathia Figgins Perez Dye Ka'Aihue Moyer Kazmir Bay Gamel Martis Zambrano Holliday Delgado Antonelli Cantz Cain Baisley Damon H. Ramirez Dempster

Remember when buying 2009 Bowman Red 1/1's to closely examine the stamp as there was a minimum of 20 sheets cut up and I know of 4 uncut sheets.
 

David K.

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I see your point...all you need is cut sheet and a stamp with 1/1 on it in using gold ink....and there will be lots of 1/1 on ebay. Best regards, David
 

1989 FF

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The sheet I posted, 106 of them were sent to one person. 44 of sheet #3. That's just CRAZY.....

I dont know about you, but I'd like to get 10lb boxes of uncut sheets mailed to me from the printer-
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1989 FF

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Sheets came from the printer in TX to MA then cut cards showed up in CT. Look for fake stamped ones in those areas. Esp. at card shows. Until they spread.
 
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