expired "send in for auto cards"

[steve1972]

got a pack of 2008 topps chrome and received a "coupon" for auto of derric barton. since it is now 2012 and the "coupon" has expiered, am i stuck with a piece of paper or can i still send it in and will they stiff me or send me something else?? i would imagine this has happened to someone and am looking for what they did or heard someone else has done.

thanks
steve

 

[cdahlk2001]

u will get nothing but a finger stamp pointing out the experation date so u can clearly see it....

 

[DaNotoriousNIC]

Call Topps, highly doubt theyll do anything but maybe

 

[mrmopar]

Why would that be getting "stiffed"? The packs are from 2008 and you probably bought them secondary.

Those redemptions usually have a couple year window, at least they seem to now. How long should a manufacturer have to honor a redemption like that? 3 years...5 years...10 years?

You could spend the stamp and the worst that could happen is you get nothing back. Some companies might toss you a bone just for buying their cards, but I wouldn't expect anything.

I would really hate to pull a very nice redemption card though, only to find it had expired. I am talking about a significant price though...

or can i still send it in and will they stiff me or send me something else??

 

[loftheb]

Those redemptions usually have a couple year window, at least they seem to now. How long should a manufacturer have to honor a redemption like that? 3 years...5 years...10 years?

I understand that I'm beating a dead horse, that this argument has been had before, but this is argument A against having redemptions inserted into packs at all. Card companies have begun advertising right on the boxes that they sell that there are a certain number of "hits" per box. An expired redemption is not a hit. The language stating that there are so many autos per box does not come off when the redemption cards expire, therefore redemption cards should not expire.

If companies cannot fulfill these redemption cards at any time their product is purchased (secondary market or not), they should not have included those cards on the checklist. I understand that they have contracts and some players breech those contracts. To me, there's something kind of shady about promising a chance to obtain a card that the company does not even have in hand.

If a trader on the bench makes a trade for a Griffey RC with another bench member, then turns around and trades that Griffey RC to a different bench member without obtaining the card, the member will still be expected to come through with a Griffey RC to the 2nd trader.

In the same boat, if a card company promises to come through with a 2008 Derric Barton autograph - even before the company obtained that autograph - it should be expected to come through with a 2008 Derric Barton autograph.

Sorry. Mini rant over.

I HATE redemptions.

-Casey

 

[roro17]

I know Donruss is only honoring redemptions that expired in 2011 and they must be Hockey only.

 

[JamesNevans]

I think it's tough to expect a company to keep a certain inventory indefinately, but an alterntive should be made available. I think some of these companies will find themselves at the end of a class action lawsuit brought by a state of federal Attorney General, I know that things like gift cards can't have inactivity charges or expiration dates here in California, so I don't see how they can promise "hits" per pack or box if they aren't really hits.

 

[DaClyde]

To me, if they promise hits in the form of redemptions, the company should be required to A) actually have the product (and enough of it) listed on the redemption card, and B) be required to fulfill those redemptions until supplies run out.

Seeding packs with redemptions for autographed cards that are never signed should plainly be a form of fraud. Just like all of the trading sites have rules against selling items not in-hand, sports card companies should not be allowed to advertise a product on the strength of something that may not even be in the product.

 

[BoomerSooner]

I would fill it out & send it in. For the cost of a stamp, you'll get one of 3 results, IMO:
1) they still have a few of the Barton sigs available & they send you one.
2) they are out of Barton but send you a "comparable" replacement for being a customer.
3) you get the standard Topps form letter explaining how dumb you are for sending in an expired redemption (and maybe a few packs with it).

 

[metsman1986]

I would fill it out & send it in. For the cost of a stamp, you'll get one of 3 results, IMO:
1) they still have a few of the Barton sigs available & they send you one.
2) they are out of Barton but send you a "comparable" replacement for being a customer.
3) you get the standard Topps form letter explaining how dumb you are for sending in an expired redemption (and maybe a few packs with it).

Can't hurt to try................Just gambling and throwing it out there.............It's worthless, the redemption card, otherwise...............

 

[OnDeck]

2008 Topps Chrome redemption cards are based on limited product in stock they only make extra cards to cover that redemption for up to one year after which it is on you. Like other said, call or write to Topps and I would ask if you could give you a refund on that redemption card base on the total number of cards in the box because you are short by one card., at least that is how I see it. I also would mention to them you support there business and if they want to keep you as a buyer they should either honor it or pull all product that hold old expired redemption cards in all there boxes because you the buyer is getting the short end of the stick. WE as collectors, sellers, shop owners etc… buy the product based on what Topps says they are giving out in each box product. You have nothing to lose because you have already lost when you bought that 2008 box of Topps chrome cards.

 

[mrmopar]

I don't disagree with you. I think redemptions are crap and believe the same thing you do. If the manufacturer doesn't have the item, they should not get to advertise it, nor should they get to use an IOU that might never be redeemed.

However, since nobody has successfully sued card makers over the use of redemptions that I am aware of, they will still use that ploy. Since they do use them and consumers know this still buy, my point is that nobody should buy an old box of something, pull a redemption card and expect that it be redeemed after the expiration date. The best way to combat redemptions is to to not buy any product that has them, but that will never happen!

I understand that I'm beating a dead horse, that this argument has been had before, but this is argument A against having redemptions inserted into packs at all. Card companies have begun advertising right on the boxes that they sell that there are a certain number of "hits" per box. An expired redemption is not a hit. The language stating that there are so many autos per box does not come off when the redemption cards expire, therefore redemption cards should not expire.

If companies cannot fulfill these redemption cards at any time their product is purchased (secondary market or not), they should not have included those cards on the checklist. I understand that they have contracts and some players breech those contracts. To me, there's something kind of shady about promising a chance to obtain a card that the company does not even have in hand.

If a trader on the bench makes a trade for a Griffey RC with another bench member, then turns around and trades that Griffey RC to a different bench member without obtaining the card, the member will still be expected to come through with a Griffey RC to the 2nd trader.

In the same boat, if a card company promises to come through with a 2008 Derric Barton autograph - even before the company obtained that autograph - it should be expected to come through with a 2008 Derric Barton autograph.

Sorry. Mini rant over.

I HATE redemptions.

-Casey

 

[steve1972]

success.

took a fews' advise and sent redemption card in and actually received an auto koji uehara from 2010 chicle set. i did write letter explaining i bought a box recently that was from a few years ago and that i was just looking for "something" in return. i did get the card back with that big finger stamp saying promo expired and a letter explaining i should look at my redemptions more frequently to avoid this happening. what ever. just a little info for those that might be curious.

steve1972

 

[Copeskey45]

I think it's dumb for companies to have "redemptions" anyway. If the card isn't made when the product is released, then it shouldn't even be in the set!

 

[David K.]

Good to hear at least you something for it! Best regards, David

 

[BoomerSooner]

I would fill it out & send it in. For the cost of a stamp, you'll get one of 3 results, IMO:
1) they still have a few of the Barton sigs available & they send you one.
2) they are out of Barton but send you a "comparable" replacement for being a customer.
3) you get the standard Topps form letter explaining how dumb you are for sending in an expired redemption (and maybe a few packs with it).

Methinks I nailed it.

 

[steve1972]

Methinks I nailed it.

pretty damm close!!! nice card of ripken jr you have there, trading it??

 

[BoomerSooner]

pretty damm close!!! nice card of ripken jr you have there, trading it??

?

 

[steve1972]

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sorry, was reading a thread youj posted to and thought it was yours. brain fart

 

[BoomerSooner]

sorry, was reading a thread youj posted to and thought it was yours. brain fart

Then you know the rules, you must buy the card in question and send it to me.