So much for being a $2 card

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I have never seen that card either. it is kind of like the 1980 Fred Stanley error. Beckett lists it at 2.00 but try and find one.
 
Thank you for this thread.
Next time the subject of book value versus sale value comes up I'll be using this thread to support my position that sv is much more important as it's a much better indicator of true value.
 
Thank you for this thread.
Next time the subject of book value versus sale value comes up I'll be using this thread to support my position that sv is much more important as it's a much better indicator of true value.

Glad you liked it! Beckett can't get 'em all right.;)
 
The seller has the love the guy bidding.....1.02, 2.02..11.02.....20.02, 30.02 etc, etc....Best regards, David


Yeah, the classic battle of wits v. desire, can't say that I've never done that. These cards make me wonder how many 1987 Donruss Opening Day Barry Bonds RCs (Johnny Ray) are sitting out there in monster boxes in storage somewhere.

In my opinion, these error/variation cards were the short print parallels of their day!
 
I see something like that and scratch my head, but it has been proven that those errors and variations are popular enough. I can see the Frank Thomas NNOF or the Randy Johnson Marlboro Fleer card or some others that feature star players being highly popular and expensive, but some something that is essentially a printing defect that I assume was caught and corrected...pretty goofy, especially someone like Dave Martinez!!

It has also lead to people selling their miscut and defective cards (that used to be somewhat common) as rare errors! Yes, a card with the top 1/4 actually being another different card is probably not that common. I would hope that type of thing would be caught and corrected or the manufacturer would not be selling much with that type of quality control. Still, I guess it is something to chase for the advanced collector.

I agree though that BV and SV have their own respective places in this hobby. The 1972 Topps Venezuelan stamps have always been my prime example. The Garvey, which is a $40-60 BV item, has sold on ebay a half dozen times in the last decade and I think the lowest price was in the $250 range and I saw one sell as high as $555!
 
For the longest time in the 90's, I thought Beckett based their BV's on what they were selling for - but came to realize that only equated to the extra hot cards (the values that actually changed).

BV's are a good idea to weight the value of a certain player, the availability of the card in the set etc..., but in the long run, it is a flawed concept.

Todd
 
A great example of how people value things differently as well. I may have gotten some of those 80 Topps at the time and if I had, I would have felt ripped off. Those were printing errors - junk! I felt the same about miscuts, diamond cuts and those cards with the little raised spots that had little rubber band bits under the paper (you know what I mean if you collected in the 70s/80...I used to get those all the time!).

I would have no interest in something like that now and if I did find one, I would probably try to sell it and get it into the hands of someone who does value it more than I.

As an example of me favoring something most people wouldn't: I have been buying and/or trading for cheap autographs for a couple years now, players who are either pictured as Dodgers or guys who played for the Dodgers at some point, but were featured with a different team. Many of these players would be nothing more than $1-2 commons in most people's book, but to me they make up a collection of Dodger autographs. They hold more value to me as part of a greater project, but I wonder down the road what I will think of all my Terry Tiffee, Troy Brohawn, Blake Hawksworth, Matt Treanor, Derek Thompson and other non-Dodger card autos that have a "BV" of pennies.

In the end, I'd rather have Dodger cards, but many of these players don't have Dodger cards, so I got the next best thing...certified autos from other teams.
 
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