Topps does it yet again

[bbcardzman]

Who's great idea was it to stop identifying all refractors????
Some refractors don't even look like refractors and sometimes it seems that all the cards look like refractors. What gives?
Thanks again Topps!!

 

[bongo870]

save money on ink. So they charge you more money for scrub autos and gu and use less ink... Makes sence huh?

 

[David K.]

Don't worry....topps for bowman draft picks...put the wording "refractor" on the back of the cards again! Best regards, David

 

[bbcardzman]

I'm sure glad cause I can't tell which of the new Bowman Chrome are refractors, and I'm sure I already traded off some as regular cards since I opened a whole box and couldn't find any.
Eric

Don't worry....topps for bowman draft picks...put the wording "refractor" on the back of the cards again! Best regards, David

 

[Brettfan]

I'm sure glad cause I can't tell which of the new Bowman Chrome are refractors, and I'm sure I already traded off some as regular cards since I opened a whole box and couldn't find any.
Eric

Eric,

I'm with you. Extremely disappointed with Topps' lack of concern about it's products. I opened four boxes of 2011 Bowman Chrome and have looked at them over and over trying to figure out which ones are refractors. I did buy a couple Cubs refractors just so that I could compare them to the base cards and I still don't see a difference.

So, when I put away my 2011 Bowman Chrome complete set it will have a note on it that says it might contain refractors as base cards.

I'm boycotting 2011 Bowman Draft even though the cards are marked this time.

Way to go Topps!

Take Care,
Melissa

 

[BiggioDiogu759]

Great job Topps...all about making money and not caring about customers.

 

[tim815]

We don't care about the value of the cards.




as if.

 

[Sportnut08]

Great job Topps...all about making money and not caring about customers.

That makes sense.

 

[worldwideed]

Great job Topps...all about making money and not caring about customers.

A little bit of an oxymoron there.

The real problem lies within the customer base. Internet forums are littered with upset Topps customers, and yet no one seems to be upset enough to stop buying the product. I'd be difficult to imagine Topps changing there position on much of anything until they start hurting in the pocketbook, yet no one wants force the change.

 

[bbcardzman]

A little bit of an oxymoron there.

The real problem lies within the customer base. Internet forums are littered with upset Topps customers, and yet no one seems to be upset enough to stop buying the product. I'd be difficult to imagine Topps changing there position on much of anything until they start hurting in the pocketbook, yet no one wants force the change.

I think you hit the nail right on the head there. Topps doesn't need to care about it's customers or products since they are now the monopoly in the baseball card market. What else is there for us?

Guess I shouldn't complain since I am part of the problem. I collect Bowman sets every year and just bought a few boxes of Bowman chrome again. I guess it's just an addiction. I used to be an Upper Deck fan until the late 90's, now I'm all about Bowman, although I only collect the rookie sets now, oh yes and all Cardinals cards.
Eric

 

[jrchoholic83]

Who's great idea was it to stop identifying all refractors????
Some refractors don't even look like refractors and sometimes it seems that all the cards look like refractors. What gives?
Thanks again Topps!!

I'm going to have to completely disagree. I don't understand how you couldn't tell if a card was a refractor. They stick out like a sore thumb to me.

I do however agree that identification is needed on some of them because there are so many different refractors, but telling a base from a refractor is very easy.

 

[bbcardzman]

I'm going to have to completely disagree. I don't understand how you couldn't tell if a card was a refractor. They stick out like a sore thumb to me.

I do however agree that identification is needed on some of them because there are so many different refractors, but telling a base from a refractor is very easy.

Am I just getting older and the eye sight is going or what? Maybe you have to use a special light or something. I have a whole box of chromes and they are either all refractors or all chrome because there isn't any difference in any of them. Could it be possible that I didn't get a regular refractor in the whole box? I guess maybe so. I will have to see one first hand and then let you know. Not sure I will buy another box though, the last one was pretty lame.

 

[Brettfan]

I'm going to have to completely disagree. I don't understand how you couldn't tell if a card was a refractor. They stick out like a sore thumb to me.

I do however agree that identification is needed on some of them because there are so many different refractors, but telling a base from a refractor is very easy.

Have you bought any 2011 Bowman Chrome? Unless I received both refractors in the four boxes that I opened the Darwin Barney refractor that I bought from a member here looks exactly like those.

When I think back to opening the packs I believe that one card was upside down in the pack. Wonder if those were the refractors.

Good luck to CheckOutMyCards identifying these.

Just my 2-cents worth,
Melissa

 

[BiggioDiogu759]

Does anyone have scans?

 

[Dilferules]

They are pretty hard to tell apart this year...the best tip is to tilt each card back and forth under a bright light and see if you can see the "refraction" look.
Richard

 

[David K.]

Agree with Richard....with light one the card....and move the card...it will have like a rainbow effect if its a refractor card. Best regards, David

 

[BiggioDiogu759]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DYLAN-BUNDY...0738252634?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item27c0cafb5a

That looks clear to me

Post up some scans

 

[montserratplay]

They are pretty hard to tell apart this year...the best tip is to tilt each card back and forth under a bright light and see if you can see the "refraction" look.
Richard

I would like to second that advice. If you tilt the card back and forth under a light, a refractor will look like a rainbow, while a regular card will just look silver. But I agree that it is VERY hard to tell. I had refractors filed as regular cards until I caught the hang of it.

 

[bongo870]

I too found it a bit harder to see the refractor for some reason this year.
Here are some nice examples of Topps being lazy with changing the printing presses. why not make it easy for the scammers topps..

 

[Brettfan]

Thanks for the advice, guys. Finally, figured out the refractors but definitely shouldn't have been that hard. Wouldn't it have been easier just to print refractor on the appropriate cards?

Take Care,
Melissa