You say your tired of "PACK SEARCHERS"

[porkchops]

We've all seen them or have we
and just how should we respond?
Here's an expert on "how to recognize a pack-searcher
and what YOU can do to combat this menace !"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6y3i2c_E5c

Ken

 

[oldmarine0311]

good imfo but dam i get motion sickness with all the fumbling, hard to take it in for to long. wish they could have done it with less hand holding.

 

[Pfinder]

I got bored 90 seconds in........What happened?

 

[BoomerSooner]

There are plenty more "pack searchers videos" on Youtube if one cares to watch and get angry. There's even some where pack searchers blatantly admit they did it and open the packs in front of you, getting hit after hit, leaving the shaft for the rest of us.

 

[David K.]

Packsearchers are sick individuals. Best regards, David

 

[anglinomics]

That is really great that those little kids would put this together. They should be taken seriously. The quality of the video may have been rough, but good for them.

 

[aceecards]

I just go report them to the store manager and claim I saw them shoplift a pack or two down the front of their pants.

Store managers and secuirty personell then take them behond closed doors for a strip searching and if that dont cure them nothing will!

It works.. Try it sometime!

 

[Dilferules]

Eh I wouldn't go so far as to lie and say I saw them shoplifting (though with the ethics required to packsearch it's a very short road to shoplifting), I'd probably just say I saw them bending the packs and damaging the cards. That's what they're doing, I've gotten plenty of cards creased by these turds, or covered in their grubby fingernail marks.
Richard

 

[worldwideed]

It doesn't bother me as much as it used but because I don't see GU as hits anymore, and retail autos are few and far between, it's till wrong though.

Here is a good example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuAi8L_T5Gc
Guy spent who know who long searching and close to $10 for 2 throwaway GU.
Pointless.

 

[rangersfan1982]

I just go report them to the store manager and claim I saw them shoplift a pack or two down the front of their pants.

Store managers and secuirty personell then take them behond closed doors for a strip searching and if that dont cure them nothing will!

It works.. Try it sometime!

I hightly doubt someone will get strip searched for a pack of cards - and if lying to the store manager by saying you "saw them shoplift" makes you feel better about your self, then more power to ya...but, that wouldn't make you any better than them in my opinion.

 

[porkchops]

I think those kids did good job and they made me .
But what about"pack-searching?"
Morally,I think it stinks!
True,occasionally a really nice card may be found
but the majority of pulls(GU)are pretty weak and most
of us could care less about them or want them.
It's the young kid(collector)that would likely get a big kick
out of pulling one.
Legally,I don't know?Is it THAT much different from trying on
a pair of shoes or jeans befor buying? I don't know,of course
there's the possible damage factor.
..........
I've always been curious though,how they can consistantly
pull it off .When I bust my Heritage boxes each
year,I try to(gently)detemine if any of the packs contain a
gu,an auto or a chrome card and I'm always wrong.I(of course)
do occasionally pull these cards but not by feel/touch.
As for an auto,usless it's a thick card,to me it seems impossible!
...........
Guess it will always be an issue/problem,
Ken

 

[VeRTiGo91]

I saw a guy searching at Target Thursday with some 2012 Topps. I walked over and laughing told him to save me some good ones! Think I scared the hell out of him! But I didn't get any good ones in my packs.

 

[BoomerSooner]

I don't remember whether I told the story here or over at SCN, but here is how I dealt (honestly) with a packsearcher back in the 90s: I saw him (& his wife and kid) in target, he was bending and squeezing every single pack they had. I stood a few cashier aisles over and watched him for over 30 minutes, hoping someone in the store would either ask me what I was doing or ask him the same, no one did. So finally he takes his little stack of searched 6-7 "hit" packs, tosses them in his shopping cart, and goes rolling away to find his wife. I went over to the cards, took the same exact number of packs (same brand, issue) and looked in the store until I found him. I waited until the three of them were distracted and I switched the packs in his cart for the ones I had in my hand. I took the "hit" packs and put them back on the shelf and went home happy. Only thing that could have made me happier would have been to be there when he opened his packs and found jack squat.

 

[mj23bullsfan]

lol boomer, i like that stunt

paul

 

[plopowitz]

What has to happen to prevent pack searching is that the card companies must recognize it as a big deal, and a detriment to the hobby. This would lead them to easily find a way to combat the issue. A 9 year old isn't supposed to be smarter than billion dollar companies.

Thanks,
Pete

 

[mrmopar]

Is it equally wrong to pick a rack pack with a good player on top or bottom or should you just let it be up to chance and pick one at random? If it is OK, how does that differ from feeling packs (as long as they are not opened or damaged) for the "good" card? Think about that while I comment further...

That is the key. First, the card makers need to figure out a way to combat the searching for good. Foil packs and pack inserts apparently have not done the trick yet. Should they fail to care or bother, then the retailers need to give a hoot. Most stores leave their cards out for anyone to ******, where they could easily control them like they used to do with cigarettes (might still do, I don't pay attention anymore). In the end, their goal is to sell those packs and pack searching apparently has not affected the bottom line enough to bother. Legally speaking, I can't see a thing wrong with it. It could be compared to picking the best apples, melons and other fruits from a batch. Nobody wants the bruised ones! I am not even sure I really agree with the ethical/moral aspect of it either. In the end, maybe they can pick out the good packs, maybe not. Evereone has the same opportunity to grope their packs too, since the stores don't seem to mind.

Buy them by the box or potentially deal with a problem that will likely never go away.

Most hobby stores don't allow this, but some may still allow it. They certainly don't want someone landing the big hit on pack 2 and then have the box sit unsold. It is not in their best interest to allow an advantage to any one customer, but hobby is a different world.

What has to happen to prevent pack searching is that the card companies must recognize it as a big deal, and a detriment to the hobby. This would lead them to easily find a way to combat the issue. A 9 year old isn't supposed to be smarter than billion dollar companies.

Thanks,
Pete

 

[plopowitz]

Is it equally wrong to pick a rack pack with a good player on top or bottom or should you just let it be up to chance and pick one at random? If it is OK, how does that differ from feeling packs (as long as they are not opened or damaged) for the "good" card? Think about that while I comment further...

That is the key. First, the card makers need to figure out a way to combat the searching for good. Foil packs and pack inserts apparently have not done the trick yet. Should they fail to care or bother, then the retailers need to give a hoot. Most stores leave their cards out for anyone to ******, where they could easily control them like they used to do with cigarettes (might still do, I don't pay attention anymore). In the end, their goal is to sell those packs and pack searching apparently has not affected the bottom line enough to bother. Legally speaking, I can't see a thing wrong with it. It could be compared to picking the best apples, melons and other fruits from a batch. Nobody wants the bruised ones! I am not even sure I really agree with the ethical/moral aspect of it either. In the end, maybe they can pick out the good packs, maybe not. Evereone has the same opportunity to grope their packs too, since the stores don't seem to mind.

Buy them by the box or potentially deal with a problem that will likely never go away.

Most hobby stores don't allow this, but some may still allow it. They certainly don't want someone landing the big hit on pack 2 and then have the box sit unsold. It is not in their best interest to allow an advantage to any one customer, but hobby is a different world.

The cards shouldn't be exposed to the eye either.... I agree with you.

Thanks,
Pete

 

[Pfinder]

Nice move Boomer! Very sneaky.



I bought 4 packs of A&G at target last week later to find out that two had been partially opened already.......Packsearched the Old Fashion way.

 

[BoomerSooner]

I bought 4 packs of A&G at target last week later to find out that two had been partially opened already.......Packsearched the Old Fashion way.

I had that happen once too. Also brought home packs once only to find the little razor slits in the sides, where the searchers had cut so they could see the cards inside clearer. Now I pretty much never buy packs at retail outlets, only the occasional blaster or sealed box.

 

[mbrown2626]

Is it equally wrong to pick a rack pack with a good player on top or bottom or should you just let it be up to chance and pick one at random? If it is OK, how does that differ from feeling packs (as long as they are not opened or damaged) for the "good" card? Think about that while I comment further...

That is the key. First, the card makers need to figure out a way to combat the searching for good. Foil packs and pack inserts apparently have not done the trick yet. Should they fail to care or bother, then the retailers need to give a hoot. Most stores leave their cards out for anyone to ******, where they could easily control them like they used to do with cigarettes (might still do, I don't pay attention anymore). In the end, their goal is to sell those packs and pack searching apparently has not affected the bottom line enough to bother. Legally speaking, I can't see a thing wrong with it. It could be compared to picking the best apples, melons and other fruits from a batch. Nobody wants the bruised ones! I am not even sure I really agree with the ethical/moral aspect of it either. In the end, maybe they can pick out the good packs, maybe not. Evereone has the same opportunity to grope their packs too, since the stores don't seem to mind.

Buy them by the box or potentially deal with a problem that will likely never go away.

Most hobby stores don't allow this, but some may still allow it. They certainly don't want someone landing the big hit on pack 2 and then have the box sit unsold. It is not in their best interest to allow an advantage to any one customer, but hobby is a different world.

Agree 100%. I dont have a problem with people feeling a pack. Guarantee the kid in this video would feel up the packs if it was a fresh box. Opening and resealing I have a problem with but that is rare. Easy solution for feeling up a pack is for Topps to insert a blank that is the same size and density as the relics. I've seen it in other types of packs. That would alleviate a lot of issues.

Hell, my 6 and 8 year old look at the rack pack to see if a Texas Ranger is showing.