How do people get some many cards listed on COMC with all of their fees?

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How do people get some many cards listed on COMC with all of their fees? (not counting port sales, as they are way out of my price range. i was jut wondering how people have tens and tens of thousands of cards listed at 20-25 cents card, it adds up very fast and i know not everyone that collects cards have an extra $20,000-$25,000 to get their cards listed. my thoughts on this is maybe its a very slow build, first they send some cards in, then more, then more every week. and once their cards start to sell, they use that money in their account to pay for more cards to be shipped, until they have their entire collections all up on the site?just a thought, your thoughts please. thanks
 
there are also levels that you can purcahse that offer better deals if your listing that many cards, insane i know but somepeople move alot of cards.
 
This isn't a broad answer, but I know some sellers with a ton of stuff are staff. I am thinking they may be able to list their own for free or very little to "boost" the site perhaps.

I would guess the rest are some sort of bulk listing or buying of collections already listed.
 
How do people get some many cards listed on COMC with all of their fees? (not counting port sales, as they are way out of my price range. i was jut wondering how people have tens and tens of thousands of cards listed at 20-25 cents card, it adds up very fast and i know not everyone that collects cards have an extra $20,000-$25,000 to get their cards listed. my thoughts on this is maybe its a very slow build, first they send some cards in, then more, then more every week. and once their cards start to sell, they use that money in their account to pay for more cards to be shipped, until they have their entire collections all up on the site?just a thought, your thoughts please. thanks

Short answer: some people just have that kind of money to spend. How can one person buy a new Meredes while another buys a used Ford Focus?

Not everyone that lists cards has enough cards on there to cost them 20-25K. Doing a quick check, looks like they have 77 sellers with 10,000+ cards and another 50 or so between 5,000-9,999. Looks like just over 17% (403 of 2334) have even 1,000 cards listed. Between buying ports, being on there for a few years when rates may have been different, and upgraded accounts to lower the fees, that still leaves over 82% of the users who have paid $250 or less to list their cards.
 
They are actually running a special at the moment:

$55 listing fee for any amount of cards that can fit into a 550ct box (max 5 boxes per account). Even sleeved, you can probably get 400 cards into each.

Rough math - $275 to list ~2,000 cards (.14/ea).

Of course, these specials are few and far between. They are raising their initial processing fee to .25/card pretty soon, so now might be the time to send in some cards.
 
Because I have met a number of staff and recognize their IDs from their bios, blog or other areas of the site I might have wandered into.

These guys are in my backyard and come to all of the decent sized shows.

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/AboutUs.aspx

Reason I ask is that just feels like a conflict of interest to me. When you control the action, and also take part in the action, dirty deals do go down, LOL. Similar principle as PSA grading cards AND selling graded cards, IMO.
 
I'm not saying I know for sure they have the ability to list cards for free or a heavy discount, it's a guess. However, I figure with near certainty that at least one of those guys doesn't have the kind of money to list that many cards at their advertised rates. Either they have a heck of an employee discount, he got some sort of sweet promotional deal or he bought a number of large portfolios already listed.

I'm not sure if I see how staff selling their own items can make a that big difference with their business model though. They are there to do the "dirty" work of selling (scanning, listing and shipping) and charge a fee for it. They make their money off other people's listings. They don't set prices, although I suppose if they listed enough of any one card, they could help manipulate the price somewhat. They would only drive it down though, otherwise other sellers would undercut them, which doesn't help anyone but the buyer. I suppose they could also shill a certain card, by listing one at a "reasonable" price and then list others at an inflated price to make the one seem like a good deal. That seems like a lot of work for not much return.

The sellers set their prices and can adjust them accordingly though. The worst I see that they could do is undercut the rest of the sellers on items and increase their individual profit margins by not having the costs associated with listing that other otherwise equal sellers have, unless I am missing something or didn't think of a different angle.
 
People buy out ports constantly on there - I have run across a few folks who send in a chunk of cards solely to list it as a complete port for sale. It's fast money rather than listing cards and waiting over time for sales.
 
I'm not saying I know for sure they have the ability to list cards for free or a heavy discount, it's a guess. However, I figure with near certainty that at least one of those guys doesn't have the kind of money to list that many cards at their advertised rates. Either they have a heck of an employee discount, he got some sort of sweet promotional deal or he bought a number of large portfolios already listed.

I'm not sure if I see how staff selling their own items can make a that big difference with their business model though. They are there to do the "dirty" work of selling (scanning, listing and shipping) and charge a fee for it. They make their money off other people's listings. They don't set prices, although I suppose if they listed enough of any one card, they could help manipulate the price somewhat. They would only drive it down though, otherwise other sellers would undercut them, which doesn't help anyone but the buyer. I suppose they could also shill a certain card, by listing one at a "reasonable" price and then list others at an inflated price to make the one seem like a good deal. That seems like a lot of work for not much return.

The sellers set their prices and can adjust them accordingly though. The worst I see that they could do is undercut the rest of the sellers on items and increase their individual profit margins by not having the costs associated with listing that other otherwise equal sellers have, unless I am missing something or didn't think of a different angle.

I think you covered it well, and I certainly don't know enough about COMC to state with any certainty that there is an issue. My thinking was that an owner of the site, who also listed cards, might somehow manipulate the system to get HIS cards to sell first, by changing prices on the fly, slowing the loading of a similar card, etc. Again, i don't really know how well it works there- you would hope fair is fair, but it IS a business, and while the owners want to make money as a site, they might also want to make money for themselves.
 
i know there is at least one seller on that site that is just ruining it for everyone that sells commons. he has just about every common i have listed selling for like .12 cents and .14 cents. i cant compete with that as it costs me now 25 cents a card to list! but by him/her listing cards so darn cheap it wipes out 99.9% of the competition over there.
 
Then he should run out of commons eventually and yours will be the next cheapest. It's not DESIGNED to be a place to unload commons. I don't know who you're talking about, but is there really THAT much of a market for his .12 or .14 1988 Topps commons that you're missing out on real money? Again, if so, then his should be disappearing shortly.
 
The guy that owns the company is a big wig at Microsoft I believe - what I've read in the past anyway. Not sure he is really in it to make big money.
 
From the link above...Tim did work at Microsoft, but left in 2007. He started in 1999 though and maybe they (employees) were still able to "cash in" on Microsoft then. Not sure of the time line when it went from BIG money if you were a key employee to decent money to you are just another employee status there.

Tim Getsch, MS
Founder & CEO

Tim grew up in Minnesota as an avid collector of baseball, basketball, and hockey cards. He fell in love with numbers at a young age and went on to earn a BS in Math at age 19 and a MS in Computer Science, both from the Institute of Technology at the University of Minnesota. In 1999, Tim was hired by Microsoft as a Program Manager on Excel. In 2001, Tim switched to Microsoft Access. Tim left Microsoft in October of 2007 as the most tenured Program Manager on the team.
Tim started dreaming about the possibilities of a centralized sports card exchange in the fall of 2003. He built software in Microsoft Access to analyze and bid on eBay auctions, and he built LowPriceCards.com as an outlet to sell excess inventory purchased from eBay. In the fall of 2006, Tim started building CheckOutMyCards.com as a successor to LowPriceCards.com, so users could post and manage their online inventory.

The guy that owns the company is a big wig at Microsoft I believe - what I've read in the past anyway. Not sure he is really in it to make big money.
 
Once again, COMC is not designed to help you sell commons, and all of their upcoming changes seem to be designed to encourage it less and less. But if you insist on doing so, do it half and half. Half commons, half better cards. Then just think of it as 40 cents to list your better $1.75 card, and 10 cents to list your $0.25 common. Either way you make $2 in sales and spend $0.50 in listing fees, so it doesn't matter in the end, but you can work it to your advantage on a larger scale if you're trying to fill up a flat rate box where the increased amount of common cards is not going to cost you anything extra in shipping. The key is sending in the higher-dollar cards.

Although I am in no way encouraging people to flood the site with yet more unreasonably-priced commons, people are too rigid in how they are thinking about this $0.25 cost to list a card.
 
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