1993 Pinnacle Joe DiMaggio Auto

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I ran accross a 93 Pinnacle DiMaggio Autograph on Ebay. I guess I had forgotten that it was out there. Here's a link that shows it:

http://www.newcardsmell.com/wordpress/?tag=1993-pinnacle-joe-dimaggio

I looked this up on Beckett and it books at 175- 300. There are 5 different cards and the print run was 1800 each. 9000 AUs total. There is an Ebay seller that has several available for 123.00. I'm thinking this is a great buy for a DiMaggio on card auto. I guess I dont understand how these arent all in personal collections after 18 years. The card is oversized which might turn some people off. Other card companies have even bought several of these cards to make a cut auto out of them. The cut auto's sell higher than the original article. I dont understand that either. DiMaggio only had about a dozen on card auto's. Is there something I'm not getting here ? I'm surprised these aren't all snatched up.
 

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I'm just as puzzled as you are as to why these aren't all tucked away in PC's. I am also DISGUSTED that card companies cut these cards up and resell them, to me it is a defaced card and is worth much less. I snatched one when they were at $165 and was very pleased, I'm tempted to get another at that price! Here's mine:



Jeremy
 

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Dave & Adam's Card World (which is the eBay seller) has had several of these sets available for quite a while and they have been dropping in price from $200 a year ago to now $123 on eBay or $115 to their Premier members on their website. There are also several of just the autograph cards on eBay that regularly don't sell. I think it is just a matter of the fact that the market is flooded with them and times are tough right now, thus driving the prices down.
 

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Size counts, oversized cards do not sell as well. Same thing with the thicker cards Sweet Spot autos tend to sell for less than regular sized items. A lot is due to storage or how to display them. As far as cuts to each his own. Sandy Koufax has few hand signed cards on the market, none to me jump out and say buy me. So a well done cut is the way to go.
 

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I forgot to mention in my post that I had bought 2 of these last week @ 115.00 ea. I wanted to get the 1936 spring auto like the pictured above. It must be more desirable one, since they didnt offer that one. I prefer they were the standard size, but its not that big of a deal to me. I guess if they keep making cut autos out of these, eventually it should help bring to price up. :)
 

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I have also kicked around buying one. What is the actual size of the auto'ed card? how oversized is it? Not quite the size of the HOF plaques or Perez Steele I assume.
 

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Considering the questionable nature of many of DiMaggio's autographs on the market,how can you go wrong with the price of those cards?
 

metrotheme

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If you use the Bing Cashback via buy it now, you will get an addition 8% off too. That's going to shave another $10 off the price.
 

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I actually prefer the Signature Rookie Old Judge card and those can be found in the same price neighborhood. Rather than being larger, these are smaller than standard baseball cards.

Here is one on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1995-Old-Judge-...aultDomain_0?hash=item20afda76ca#ht_500wt_956

The larger Pinnacle autos are probably one good explanation for the price. It has basically gone from a card to a postcard due to the size.
 
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I ran accross a 93 Pinnacle DiMaggio Autograph on Ebay. I guess I had forgotten that it was out there. Here's a link that shows it:

http://www.newcardsmell.com/wordpress/?tag=1993-pinnacle-joe-dimaggio

I looked this up on Beckett and it books at 175- 300. There are 5 different cards and the print run was 1800 each. 9000 AUs total. There is an Ebay seller that has several available for 123.00. I'm thinking this is a great buy for a DiMaggio on card auto. I guess I dont understand how these arent all in personal collections after 18 years. The card is oversized which might turn some people off. Other card companies have even bought several of these cards to make a cut auto out of them. The cut auto's sell higher than the original article. I dont understand that either. DiMaggio only had about a dozen on card auto's. Is there something I'm not getting here ? I'm surprised these aren't all snatched up.

I agree with you, these should book for more. I don't buy into the over sized card theory making the card less desirable. The reason they don't sell for more probably has more to do with the print run than anything else. Today, they make print runs on these signed cards in the 10-50-100 sig variety, making a card more scarce. Back in 1993, a print run of 1800 was considered scarce. Not so today because of the above reason. That's also why card companies are buying these cards and carving them up as cuts. They buy these cards for $130, cut out the sig, and repackage it as a cut card with a print run of 10, and all of a sudden that $130 card is $500-$600 card. Personally, I think that's ludicruous, but that's what it is. The same can be said of cards of other HOFers. A few years back I saw one card company do the same thing with Joe Sewell signed 3x5's. They bought them at $10 a pop, cut them up, and repackaged them in signed cut cards with print runs of 10 and 15 and all of a sudden those $10 sigs became $125-$150 cards. As ridiculous as it sounds, once that common HOF sig got repackaged as a limited run card it became something else other than a common HOF sig. Card companies do this because there is a market for those limited run signed cards. As long as there is a market they will do this.
 

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I have scrutinized the cut idea over and over even since it's inception. I think it is great for a company to spend a large sum of money on a real special signature (Ruth, Wagner, Young, Johnson, etc) that most collectors would never be able to afford and basically make it like hitting the lottery to pull one.

However, the Sewells, Slaughters, Waners, Kellys and other very easy to find autos are a waste of this idea. It is even worse when you find cuts of Gus Suhr, Taylor Douthit and Van Mungo!

If it weren't for authenticity paranoia, I don't think these more common cuts would do as well. Certainly, the nicest of jobs on cut cards do add a certain value to a plain 3x5 and should reflect that in the pricing, but in the end it's still a signature and 10X or more of the price for a fancy wrapper is crazy, but people pay! As long as they pay, these cards will be made and traded. I made a thread about a Pee Wee Reese cut in my blog to share my views and I continue and will always hold that same belief. For my money, give me uncertified 3x5s of 15 different HOFers, rather than 1 cut of any single one of them.

It is amazing how cheap Appling, Roush, Kell and other HOFers can be found for on ebay!
 

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I have scrutinized the cut idea over and over even since it's inception. I think it is great for a company to spend a large sum of money on a real special signature (Ruth, Wagner, Young, Johnson, etc) that most collectors would never be able to afford and basically make it like hitting the lottery to pull one.

However, the Sewells, Slaughters, Waners, Kellys and other very easy to find autos are a waste of this idea. It is even worse when you find cuts of Gus Suhr, Taylor Douthit and Van Mungo!

If it weren't for authenticity paranoia, I don't think these more common cuts would do as well. Certainly, the nicest of jobs on cut cards do add a certain value to a plain 3x5 and should reflect that in the pricing, but in the end it's still a signature and 10X or more of the price for a fancy wrapper is crazy, but people pay! As long as they pay, these cards will be made and traded. I made a thread about a Pee Wee Reese cut in my blog to share my views and I continue and will always hold that same belief. For my money, give me uncertified 3x5s of 15 different HOFers, rather than 1 cut of any single one of them.

It is amazing how cheap Appling, Roush, Kell and other HOFers can be found for on ebay!

I have to ask, do you display your collection or store them in boxes? I for one like to dispay them in hard cases and wall mount display cases. For me cuts give me the option of doing this. We all know of your hate and lack of the history of cut autographs. To you all cut autos were were from destroyed historical documents. The fact is a great many signatures were saved people that cut to signature off a memo, letter ect. that was about to be destroyed. You can collect what you want but please cut out your rants on what other people collect and how they do it.
 

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Budd,
You are missing the point of what Mopar is saying. Would you rather spend 80-100 for one Sewell auto because it has been cut into a #'d to 15 or buy 10-15 Sewell signed checks for the same amount? or buy 4-5 checks of different players that are all famers for that same $80?
 

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I have to ask, do you display your collection or store them in boxes? I for one like to dispay them in hard cases and wall mount display cases. For me cuts give me the option of doing this. We all know of your hate and lack of the history of cut autographs. To you all cut autos were were from destroyed historical documents. The fact is a great many signatures were saved people that cut to signature off a memo, letter ect. that was about to be destroyed. You can collect what you want but please cut out your rants on what other people collect and how they do it.

Not that I disagree or agree with your statement (frankly I'm indifferent to this topic), but if you're bothered by people's opinions on the Internet, then maybe this isn't the right kind of medium for you. Justtttt sayin.
 

budd2222

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Budd,
You are missing the point of what Mopar is saying. Would you rather spend 80-100 for one Sewell auto because it has been cut into a #'d to 15 or buy 10-15 Sewell signed checks for the same amount? or buy 4-5 checks of different players that are all famers for that same $80?

My point is I would rather spend the money on the cut because it would fit my collecting and display needs. Everyone collects different, at one time I bought a traded just about everything. Now I have a set idea on my wants due to a change in liveing area[retired and moved from large house to apt]. If you just want an auto on the cheap to put in a box mopar's way is the way to go.
 

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I store my photos and postcards in sheets w/in binders. Cards go in card boxes. By the way, be careful what you store out for all to view. Sunlight can/will affect those items over time and degrade signatures unless you have some fantastic UV protection. I keep the shades down in my card room to avoid any extended expose to light.

I don't think I ever made a comment about destroying history. Others certainly have for sure, but unless we are talking about something incredibly significant, then I don't care if you cut up a yellow HOF P/C or photograph. 3x5s and plain paper sigs are certainly best for cuts from an aesthetic standpoint though or you end up with "ugly cuts".

My "issue", and issue is more amazement than anything, is with how much people pay for these items. As has been said by more than just me, you can buy a Lloyd Waner 3x5 for as little as $5 if you keep your eyes peeled. Yet, so many people are willing to fork out $100-150 for the same signature placed under a fancy foiled frame made by UD and numbered to 63 copies.

Everyone is certainly welcome to collect what they want and I and others are welcome to comment about things they think are odd. Neither should be criticized. I didn't ask you to stop buying them or criticize you personally.

I have to ask, do you display your collection or store them in boxes? I for one like to dispay them in hard cases and wall mount display cases. For me cuts give me the option of doing this. We all know of your hate and lack of the history of cut autographs. To you all cut autos were were from destroyed historical documents. The fact is a great many signatures were saved people that cut to signature off a memo, letter ect. that was about to be destroyed. You can collect what you want but please cut out your rants on what other people collect and how they do it.
 

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budd,
I have some very pricey items and they do not see sunlight or non incandescant lights. my items are in binders and pages except for cards which live in boxes. I do have a coupl epieces out but why risk a nice eddie collins for sunlight. and if in an apt card boxes do wonders for storage.. unless like me its an addiction :)
 

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budd,
I have some very pricey items and they do not see sunlight or non incandescant lights. my items are in binders and pages except for cards which live in boxes. I do have a coupl epieces out but why risk a nice eddie collins for sunlight. and if in an apt card boxes do wonders for storage.. unless like me its an addiction :)

All my dislay cases have 100% AV protection. Was it expensive? Yes, but worth it. You can have nice items and enjoy them with care and some expense. I got over my card addiction some time ago, but find my self paying out $500 for a nice movie lobby card from a silent film or one that has a nice picture of Bogart.
 
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