1976-77 milwaukee bucks playing cards alex english
the set contains 4 cards of english (predating his true rookie card by a full three years) ....TOTAL psa populations of the four cards is a mere 6 copies , broken down as follows :
5 of clubs - 2 graded , both psa 10 (i own one of them)
5 of spades - 1 graded , psa 9 (i own it)
10 of hearts - 1 graded , psa 10 (i own it)
10 of diamonds - 2 graded , 1 psa 9 , 1 psa 10 (i own both of them)
raw beckett values (same for all 4 cards) :
mint $25.00
nm-mt+ $15.00
nm-mt $15.00
nm $10.00 ------------> this is hi column beckett
neither beckett nor the psa smr price guide has graded values (obviously due to the extreme scarcity of them in graded form....)
in an effort to derive a semi-accurate value , i've compared them to his true rookie card
1979-80 topps #31 alex english rc
raw beckett values :
mint $30.00
nm-mt+ $18.00
nm-mt $18.00
nm $12.00 ------------> this is hi column beckett
graded values :
beckett :
gem mint (10) - not priced
mint (9) $60.00
nm-mt (8) $15.00
nm (7) $10.00
psa smr guide :
gem mint (10) - $250.00
mint (9) $45.00
nm-mt (8) $9.00
nm (7) not priced
based on this data , it would seem this pre-rookie card generally has a BV of roughly 80% of his true RC in RAW form....
edit to add : also , with beckett not pricing the gem mint 10's there is a bit more to determine....beckett has the nm-mt 8 priced 67% higher than the psa guide and has the mint 9 valued at 33% over the psa guide....based on this , would it be safe to assume the beckett BOOK value for a gem mint 10 would likely be 30-60% more than the psa guide , making it something like $325 to $400 ?
if we held that same generalization to the graded cards , we could see the psa 10's running in the 200-225 range with the psa 9's checking in the $35-50 range....
the tricky part (and why i'm seeking the opinions of a few others) is when you take populations into consideration....
the psa population report shows that there are 331 english rookie cards graded :
10 - 7
9 - 68
9Q - 6
8.5 - 1
8 - 170
8Q - 13
7.5 - 1
7 - 45
7Q - 2
6.5 - 2
6 - 13
4 - 3
quite a few more than the pre-rookie....
the true rookie card still holds solid value in graded form , but is not exactly impossible to find in high grades so this is where those population reports come into play....with populations of either 1 or 2 (as opposed to 7 for the true rookie) , i'm inclined to say the "true bv" of the psa 10's would likely fall in the $300-500 range (lower end for the one with a pop of 2 , upper limit for the 2 with pops of 1)....with populations of EXACTLY 1 for each of the two graded as mint 9 (compared to 68 of the true rookie) i'm thinking along the lines of $75-100 as the "true bv"....
so now is where i seek the opinions of those who deal more with graded material , especially vintage items with ultra low populations.....are my projections even remotely close ? am i unrealistically high ? or am i actually underestimating them ? .....i realize actual CASH VALUES and SALE PRICES REALIZED can vary by a wide margin in EITHER direction , especially with such low pop cards , and i would also be interested in hearing opinions on those figures as well , but bear in mind , for now i'm just trying to estimate their true BOOK VALUES
any opinions are welcome ....even if they hurt my feelings ;-)
the set contains 4 cards of english (predating his true rookie card by a full three years) ....TOTAL psa populations of the four cards is a mere 6 copies , broken down as follows :
5 of clubs - 2 graded , both psa 10 (i own one of them)
5 of spades - 1 graded , psa 9 (i own it)
10 of hearts - 1 graded , psa 10 (i own it)
10 of diamonds - 2 graded , 1 psa 9 , 1 psa 10 (i own both of them)
raw beckett values (same for all 4 cards) :
mint $25.00
nm-mt+ $15.00
nm-mt $15.00
nm $10.00 ------------> this is hi column beckett
neither beckett nor the psa smr price guide has graded values (obviously due to the extreme scarcity of them in graded form....)
in an effort to derive a semi-accurate value , i've compared them to his true rookie card
1979-80 topps #31 alex english rc
raw beckett values :
mint $30.00
nm-mt+ $18.00
nm-mt $18.00
nm $12.00 ------------> this is hi column beckett
graded values :
beckett :
gem mint (10) - not priced
mint (9) $60.00
nm-mt (8) $15.00
nm (7) $10.00
psa smr guide :
gem mint (10) - $250.00
mint (9) $45.00
nm-mt (8) $9.00
nm (7) not priced
based on this data , it would seem this pre-rookie card generally has a BV of roughly 80% of his true RC in RAW form....
edit to add : also , with beckett not pricing the gem mint 10's there is a bit more to determine....beckett has the nm-mt 8 priced 67% higher than the psa guide and has the mint 9 valued at 33% over the psa guide....based on this , would it be safe to assume the beckett BOOK value for a gem mint 10 would likely be 30-60% more than the psa guide , making it something like $325 to $400 ?
if we held that same generalization to the graded cards , we could see the psa 10's running in the 200-225 range with the psa 9's checking in the $35-50 range....
the tricky part (and why i'm seeking the opinions of a few others) is when you take populations into consideration....
the psa population report shows that there are 331 english rookie cards graded :
10 - 7
9 - 68
9Q - 6
8.5 - 1
8 - 170
8Q - 13
7.5 - 1
7 - 45
7Q - 2
6.5 - 2
6 - 13
4 - 3
quite a few more than the pre-rookie....
the true rookie card still holds solid value in graded form , but is not exactly impossible to find in high grades so this is where those population reports come into play....with populations of either 1 or 2 (as opposed to 7 for the true rookie) , i'm inclined to say the "true bv" of the psa 10's would likely fall in the $300-500 range (lower end for the one with a pop of 2 , upper limit for the 2 with pops of 1)....with populations of EXACTLY 1 for each of the two graded as mint 9 (compared to 68 of the true rookie) i'm thinking along the lines of $75-100 as the "true bv"....
so now is where i seek the opinions of those who deal more with graded material , especially vintage items with ultra low populations.....are my projections even remotely close ? am i unrealistically high ? or am i actually underestimating them ? .....i realize actual CASH VALUES and SALE PRICES REALIZED can vary by a wide margin in EITHER direction , especially with such low pop cards , and i would also be interested in hearing opinions on those figures as well , but bear in mind , for now i'm just trying to estimate their true BOOK VALUES
any opinions are welcome ....even if they hurt my feelings ;-)
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