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Scobes

1958 Topps #175 Marv Throneberry RC

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I did not know this factoid until just now. When I saw Marv Throneberry was with the Kansas City Athletics in the early 60s, I began to wonder if he was involved in the famous trade that bought Roget Maris from Kansas City to the Yankees. And 'lo and behold he was. Throneberry was traded with 3 other players to the Athletics (most notably Hank Bauer and Don larson) for Maris and 2 other players. I had no idea he was involved in that trade until today!
 
I did not know this factoid until just now. When I saw Marv Throneberry was with the Kansas City Athletics in the early 60s, I began to wonder if he was involved in the famous trade that bought Roget Maris from Kansas City to the Yankees. And 'lo and behold he was. Throneberry was traded with 3 other players to the Athletics (most notably Hank Bauer and Don larson) for Maris and 2 other players. I had no idea he was involved in that trade until today!

@SymphonicMetal

Interesting. I didn't know that either. Here's the full trade:

December 11, 1959:
KCA receives: Hank Bauer, Don Larsen, Norm Siebern and Marv Throneberry.
NYY receives: Roger Maris, Joe DeMaestri and Kent Hadley


Bauer and Larsen's best days were behind them at that point. Siebern did the best of KC's return - a 3-time AS and finished in the MVP voting (14th, 7th, and 27th).

Then I looked into why KC would trade Maris in this deal and found this:

"The two franchises shared an unusually cozy relationship where Kansas City essentially operated as a "major league farm team" for the Yankees. At the time, Athletics owner Arnold Johnson had close personal financial and real estate ties to Yankees co-owner Del Webb. Because Johnson owed Webb favors and money, the Yankees were frequently allowed to treat Kansas City's roster as a talent pipeline. Whenever New York needed to fill a hole, they would trade away their aging or underperforming veterans to Kansas City in exchange for top-tier young talent."

Evidently, the Yanks picked up quite a few solid pieces from KC in a similar manner - players such as Clete Boyer, Ralph Terry, Enos Slaughter, Johnny Sain, and Ryne Duren.

I don't think anything like this would fly in today's MLB.

Scobes
 
@SymphonicMetal

Interesting. I didn't know that either. Here's the full trade:

December 11, 1959:
KCA receives: Hank Bauer, Don Larsen, Norm Siebern and Marv Throneberry.
NYY receives: Roger Maris, Joe DeMaestri and Kent Hadley


Bauer and Larsen's best days were behind them at that point. Siebern did the best of KC's return - a 3-time AS and finished in the MVP voting (14th, 7th, and 27th).

Then I looked into why KC would trade Maris in this deal and found this:

"The two franchises shared an unusually cozy relationship where Kansas City essentially operated as a "major league farm team" for the Yankees. At the time, Athletics owner Arnold Johnson had close personal financial and real estate ties to Yankees co-owner Del Webb. Because Johnson owed Webb favors and money, the Yankees were frequently allowed to treat Kansas City's roster as a talent pipeline. Whenever New York needed to fill a hole, they would trade away their aging or underperforming veterans to Kansas City in exchange for top-tier young talent."

Evidently, the Yanks picked up quite a few solid pieces from KC in a similar manner - players such as Clete Boyer, Ralph Terry, Enos Slaughter, Johnny Sain, and Ryne Duren.

I don't think anything like this would fly in today's MLB.

Scobes
I knew Kansas City was considered a Yankees Major League Farm Team but had no idea as to why. I just thought it was bad management but it obviously was more than that.

I have to disagree about that not happening today. I think the Lakers have the NBA over a financial barrel or have (and have had) compromising pictures of NBA execs with domestic animals for decades. Look at the players over the years that just happen to end up with LA and most are by trade............Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Pau Gasol (the key acquisition for Kobe's last title) Le Bron, Anthony Davis and of course "My name is Luka, I live on the second floor" Doncic. Only Magic was drafted by LA and I think that pick was because of some wack trade. I did not include Kobe since he was drafted by Charlotte with the 13th pick so many other teams could have taken him. He was acquired in a draft day trade for Vlade Divac.. Shaq and LBJ were free agents but that still leaves a lot of all time greats that just happen to end up with the Lakers via trade.

Things were so obviously corrupt with the NBA that they actually put the kibosh on a trade for "Mr Overrated" Chris Paul from the Charlotte Hornets. I cannot remember the particulars of that trade but I think it involved some gently used jock straps and and my high school's 1970s mechanical rebounding machiine (which ruled BTW) going to the Hornets. Obviously the Lakers did not have any farm animal pics with TPTB in the NBA that year.
 
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