So, I buy a Fukudome jersey on ebay for about $1.75 (.75 shipping). The seller ships PWE, no case, just the card, paper saying what the card is, and envelope. Now, anyone knows that when you ship a jersey card PWE there's about a 90% chance it will get creased around the jersey, and that % only goes up when the seller doesn't even use a penny sleeve! The response is just as ridiculous as the shipping method, and he's really starting to make me mad. I told him to send me a SASE and I'll send the card back to him. He insists on the "no card, no refund" approach, and it's really starting to annoy me. I have had many cases where I paid a few bucks for the card, it arrived damaged, and the seller just refunded my money, and that was that. But this guy insists on me shipping the card back to him (he pays S&H). I'm telling him that I'll do it but it would cost $1.25 to ship (the right way) and it just wouldn't be worth it for him to do that as he's always losing money for selling the card for cheaper than the pack price, giving me a refund, and now paying me to ship it back to him. Am I being the ridiculous one, or should the seller just give me the refund? It's not that I have a problem with sending it back, because I definitely don't. It's that the card is practically worthless and it's not worth the headache of doing so. It's already a bigger headache than a $1.75 jersey is worth. Here's the emails back and forth:
To him from me:
Hi, I got the card today and it was not what I expected. There were 2 big and 2 small creases around the jersey. I paid 75 cents for it to be shipped adequately, so the card did not arrive damaged. But, the card was not even in a CASE, let alone a bubble mailer or cardboard. I know shipping in a bubble mailer is more expensive, and therefore I would have been fine with simply cardboard around the card to protect it. The card was without a penny sleeve, or any kind of protection for that matter. If it had been messed up, and shipped properly, then it would be the PO's fault, but since you didn't even bother to protect the card, the blame can only fall on your shoulders. Please let me know what you will do to correct the problem; this is unacceptable. Thank you.
His response:
I am very sorry that you are not pleased with the card you recieved, I shipped out three other jersey cards in the exact same manner, one of which went all the way to Canada with no problem and they where quite satisfied with what they recieved. [that's really good luck, not because he shipped them properly] However since you are not pleased, return the card and I will issue a full refund as soon as I recieve the card through the mail. I will also include the cost of shipping the card back to me in your refund. However, no card no refund. Sorry again for the trouble.
My response:
Then you really have amazing luck that only one was messed up
in the mail. When you ship a card without a case, it's only
inevitable that it will get damaged. When I ship back to you, I
will use a case and bubble mailer, which will cost about $1
postage, plus about 25 cents for the mailer, ect. If you want to
spend $1.25 for me to ship a $1.75 card back to you, then I will
do it. But you're only losing more money and that just doesn't
make economical sense. You're not going to be able to sell the
card again, it's too badly damaged, and I will simply just toss it
or give it away or something. It's not like I'm going to profit off
of it or anything like that. If you feel strongly about paying
$1.25 for a creased card worth $1.75 when mint, then go for it.
But it's not worth the trip to the PO, my time, or yours.
His response:
I am only trying to resolve the problem, it does not matter to me if it cost me a little extra to please a dis satisfied custumer. The card is worth $4.00 low Beckett & $10.00 high Beckett this month not $1.75. Either send it back and get the refund plus the shipping or get nothing. No card, no REFUND!
My response:
Please do not tell it's worth $10 based on Beckett values. If you
can SELL it for $10, then it would be worth $10, but as far as I
know, you sold it to me for $1.75. Those are top retail values,
definitely not the price you would get on ebay. When you sell
the card for $10, I would really like to know. Also, now that the
card is damaged, is can't be priced as "mint," as I'm sure those
prices refer to. This card is really not worth the time or money to
send it back. It's already a bigger headache than the card's
worth. I really wouldn't want to tarnish your perfect feedback
over a cheap card like this; it just wouldn't be
worth it. If you send me a SASE (self addressed stamped
envelope), I'll send it back.
To him from me:
Hi, I got the card today and it was not what I expected. There were 2 big and 2 small creases around the jersey. I paid 75 cents for it to be shipped adequately, so the card did not arrive damaged. But, the card was not even in a CASE, let alone a bubble mailer or cardboard. I know shipping in a bubble mailer is more expensive, and therefore I would have been fine with simply cardboard around the card to protect it. The card was without a penny sleeve, or any kind of protection for that matter. If it had been messed up, and shipped properly, then it would be the PO's fault, but since you didn't even bother to protect the card, the blame can only fall on your shoulders. Please let me know what you will do to correct the problem; this is unacceptable. Thank you.
His response:
I am very sorry that you are not pleased with the card you recieved, I shipped out three other jersey cards in the exact same manner, one of which went all the way to Canada with no problem and they where quite satisfied with what they recieved. [that's really good luck, not because he shipped them properly] However since you are not pleased, return the card and I will issue a full refund as soon as I recieve the card through the mail. I will also include the cost of shipping the card back to me in your refund. However, no card no refund. Sorry again for the trouble.
My response:
Then you really have amazing luck that only one was messed up
in the mail. When you ship a card without a case, it's only
inevitable that it will get damaged. When I ship back to you, I
will use a case and bubble mailer, which will cost about $1
postage, plus about 25 cents for the mailer, ect. If you want to
spend $1.25 for me to ship a $1.75 card back to you, then I will
do it. But you're only losing more money and that just doesn't
make economical sense. You're not going to be able to sell the
card again, it's too badly damaged, and I will simply just toss it
or give it away or something. It's not like I'm going to profit off
of it or anything like that. If you feel strongly about paying
$1.25 for a creased card worth $1.75 when mint, then go for it.
But it's not worth the trip to the PO, my time, or yours.
His response:
I am only trying to resolve the problem, it does not matter to me if it cost me a little extra to please a dis satisfied custumer. The card is worth $4.00 low Beckett & $10.00 high Beckett this month not $1.75. Either send it back and get the refund plus the shipping or get nothing. No card, no REFUND!
My response:
Please do not tell it's worth $10 based on Beckett values. If you
can SELL it for $10, then it would be worth $10, but as far as I
know, you sold it to me for $1.75. Those are top retail values,
definitely not the price you would get on ebay. When you sell
the card for $10, I would really like to know. Also, now that the
card is damaged, is can't be priced as "mint," as I'm sure those
prices refer to. This card is really not worth the time or money to
send it back. It's already a bigger headache than the card's
worth. I really wouldn't want to tarnish your perfect feedback
over a cheap card like this; it just wouldn't be
worth it. If you send me a SASE (self addressed stamped
envelope), I'll send it back.
