unlicensed/Broder identification guide/catalog

DaClyde

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Since I'm a sucker for never ending projects, I decided I'd finally take a stab at working up some sort of identification guide and catalog for all those unlicensed cards that got dumped on the hobby from about 1986-1992. I'll be focusing on baseball.

It's in its infancy at the moment, but I could definitely use everyone's help. Especially as I'm finding that there are some conflicts with regards to some of the set names and numbering.

Aside from just cataloging everything, I'd love to work out the origins of some of these sets. I don't see it happening, but I'd love to be able to post an interview with Rob Broder (if he's actually a real person) or someone from Pacific Cards & Comics from back in the day.
 
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bzickefoose1

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Very cool idea! Not sure how much I can help in terms of where they came from, but I do have scans of all of my Sandberg cards on my site (including the oddball ones). The issues NOT listed in Beckett are in italics. Feel free to use them, buddy!
 

starkill1138

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I have a couple of Red Sox (Greenwell and Burks) Broder cards. I'll dig them out and scan them for you. Not much but hopefully it will help. I think its a great project.
ScottC
 

DaClyde

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I'm hoping that if I can compile some complete checklists, Sportlots will be willing to include them in their catalog, enabling them to be sold thru their site. As it is, I know there are tons of these cards sitting around, collecting dust, that player collectors would love to have access to and old dealers would probably love to unload without dealing with eBay fees.
 

DaClyde

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I've heard from someone else that they'd seen them listed before, but my 2006 SCD doesn't list any of the unlicensed sets. Maybe older copies did?
 

budd2222

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These are Wade Boggs odd cards that just sit.
1986 Broder 34 of 50
1986 Broder 33 of 50
1986 Cunningham
1987 Action Allstars #10
1987 Action Superstars #28
1987 Action superstars Series 1V #83
1987 Action Super stars Rob Broder
1987 The Press Box #6
1987 Classic Baseball Superstars Series 1 #10
1987 Classic Superstars Series 2 #33
1987 Collectors Choices of The !980's #13
1987 Collectors Choices Of the 1980's #35
1988 Action Superstars Series 1 #12
1988 Action Superstars Seriea 2 #14
1988 Action superstars Series 2 #21
1988 ? Series 1 #5
1988 Baseball's Best #34
1988 Baseball's Best Series 2 #7
1988 Baseball's Best #12
1988 Boston Red Sox #1
1988 Big League All Stars Series 4 #5
1988 Big League All Stars Series 2 #1
1988 Boston Red Sox #6
1988 Class of 88 #15
1988 Classic Superstars #9
1988 Play Ball America
1988 Piedmont Products #8
1989 Action Superstars #5
1989 Action Superstars #11
1989 Baseball's Best one #6 1989 Base ball's Finest Stars #3
1989 Big League All Stars Pacific #10
1989 Pacific Cards #7
1989 Preview 1989 #15
1989 Golden Superstars #9
1989 Major League Superstars #15
1989 Pacific Cards #9
1989 Pacific Cards Series 1 #6

If you would like a sane of any of them let me know..
 

tpeichel

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Great idea.

Here are a few you can add to your checklist

PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Indiana Blue Sox # 32 of 60
DYKSTRA,LENNY 1987 Indiana Blue Sox #18
CUBS 1987 Indiana Blue Sox (Jody Davis #28 of 60)
MARINERS 1987 Indiana Blue Sox(Phil Bradley #51 of 60)
DODGERS 1987 Indiana Blue Sox(Steve Sax #50)

PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
JACKSON,BO 1987 Action Superstars #1
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Action Superstars #10
BRETT,GEORGE 1987 Action Superstars #11
CARLTON 1987 Action Superstars #12
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Action Superstars #15
ROSE,PETE 1987 Action Superstars #17
GIBSON,KIRK 1987 Action Superstars #18
DAVIS,ERIC 1987 Action Superstars #19
SEAVER 1987 Action Superstars #2
MURRAY,EDDIE 1987 Action Superstars #21
RICE,JIM 1987 Action Superstars #26
DYKSTRA 1987 Action Superstars #30
CANSECO 1987 Action Superstars #31
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Action Superstars #4
CLARK,WILL 1987 Action Superstars #7
DUNSTON 1987 Action Superstars #8

EVANS,DW 1988 Action Superstars Ser. 1 #16 of 38
STRAWBERRY 1988 Action Superstars Ser. II #26
BURKS 1988 Action Superstars Ser. II #29
DAWSON,ANDRE 1988 Action Superstars Ser. II #35 of 38
CARDINALS 1988 Action Superstars Ser. II(Jack Clark #33 of 38)
CANSECO 1988 Action Superstars Ser.II #27
DAVIS,ERIC 1988 Action Superstars Ser. II #22 of 38

BOGGS,WADE 1989 Action Superstars #11
CLARK,WILL 1989 Action Superstars #14
MATTINGLY,DON 1989 Action Superstars #17
DAWSON,ANDRE 1989 Action Superstars #4
BOGGS,WADE 1989 Action Superstars #5
CLEMENS,ROGER 1989 Action Superstars #7
MATTINGLY,DON 1989 Action Superstars #8
GREENWELL,MIKE 1989 Action Superstars Display Card #3

CANSECO 1990 Action Superstars #9 of 10

Team PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
OAKLAND CANSECO 1987 Broder Rookies #1 of 60
OAKLAND CANSECO 1987 Broder Rookies #59 of 60
RANGERS RANGERS 1987 Broder Rookies (Ruben Sierra #1 of 60)
 

tpeichel

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Here's more:

PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
PALMEIRO 1988 Class of '88 # 4 of 28
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1988 Class of '88 #10 of 28
BONDS,BARRY 1988 Class of '88 #11 of 28
MATTINGLY,DON 1988 Class of '88 #12 of 28
BOGGS,WADE 1988 Class of '88 #15 of 28
BRETT,GEORGE 1988 Class of '88 #17 of 28
LEITER,AL 1988 Class of '88 #18 of 28
MCGWIRE,MARK 1988 Class of '88 #19 of 28
MATTINGLY,DON 1988 Class of '88 #2 of 28
JACKSON,BO 1988 Class of '88 #21 of 28
DAVIS,ERIC 1988 Class of '88 #22 of 28
CLARK,WILL 1988 Class of '88 #23 of 28
STRAWBERRY 1988 Class of '88 #24 of 28
CANSECO 1988 Class of '88 #25 of 28
GRACE,MARK 1988 Class of '88 #26 of 28
JEFFERIES,GREGG 1988 Class of '88 #28 of 28
GRACE,MARK 1988 Class of '88 #3 of 28
CONE,DAVID 1988 Class of '88 #5 of 28
CLEMENS,ROGER 1988 Class of '88 #7 of 28
GOODEN,DOC 1988 Class of '88 #8 of 28
GREENWELL,MIKE 1988 Class of '88 #9 of 28
TIGERS 1988 Class of '88(Nokes #16 of 28)
REDS 1988 Class of '88(Sabo #27 of 28)(Treadway #6 of 28)
ROYALS 1988 Class of '88(Seitzer #14 of 28)
 

HoosierBuddy

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Are they worth trying to trade or just put them back in a box?

All depends.

1) My SCD is 5 years old, and out-of-date for a lot of things.
2) The prices for some of this oddball stuff aren't exactly accurate. Some of it's easier to find that other issues, but it all depends on supply-and-demand. And the pricing companies don't always take that into consideration.
3) It depends on who you've got. For instance, if a Boggs person wanted everything, they'd probably be interested, but for general trading, I doubt it. There's a LOT of Oddball Schmidt stuff that Beckett doesn't recognize, that I still need.
 

tpeichel

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Sorry these are such as mess. If it's easier for you, I can probably get everything in a spreadsheet and just email it.

PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
CANSECO 1988 Stars of '88 #1 of 34
DAVIS,ERIC 1988 Stars of '88 #11 of 34
GREENWELL,MIKE 1988 Stars of '88 #12 of 34
MCGWIRE,MARK 1988 Stars of '88 #13 of 34
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1988 Stars of '88 #14 of 34
DAWSON,ANDRE 1988 Stars of '88 #17 of 34
CLEMENS,ROGER 1988 Stars of '88 #18 of 34
MATTINGLY,DON 1988 Stars of '88 #19 of 34
JEFFERIES,GREGG 1988 Stars of '88 #2 of 34
RIPKEN,CAL 1988 Stars of '88 #20 of 34
GWYNN,TONY 1988 Stars of '88 #22 of 34
JACKSON,BO 1988 Stars of '88 #23 of 34
CLARK,WILL 1988 Stars of '88 #24 of 34
SANDBERG,RYNE 1988 Stars of '88 #25 of 34
STRAWBERRY 1988 Stars of '88 #27 of 34
MCGWIRE,MARK 1988 Stars of '88 #29 of 34
DAVIS,ERIC 1988 Stars of '88 #30 of 34
MATTINGLY,DON 1988 Stars of '88 #31 of 34
CANSECO 1988 Stars of '88 #33 of 34
BOGGS,WADE 1988 Stars of '88 #34 of 34
RICE,JIM 1988 Stars of '88 #4 of 34
MATTINGLY,DON 1988 Stars of '88 #5 of 34
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1988 Stars of '88 #6 of 34
BOGGS,WADE 1988 Stars of '88 #8 of 34
EVANS,DW 1988 Stars of '88 #9 of 34
 

DaClyde

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Does SCD list all the magazine inserts like Ballstreet, SCD Price Guide Inserts, Baseball Card Magazine Inserts, etc?

It lists less and less of that type of set every year as 5 billion new sets are released by the big two. My 2006 SCD does list the Baseball Card Magazine inserts, but not the Sports Card News or Ballstreet cards.

Looks like I need to find myself an older copy of the SCD since by 2006, they'd apparently ejected most of the unlicensed sets.
--update
Ok, bought myself a copy of the 2003 SCD on Half.com for about $5, so I should be able to knock out a lot of these checklists in a week or so.

Thanks for the help so far, everyone!
 
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tpeichel

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Here are some of the cards I have from different broder sets. If they aren't in the SCD Catalog I can provide a scan to help identify. -Tim


YEAR DESCRIPTION
?? The Press Box #12(rounded corners)
?? Broder - Series 1 Card #2 (black front with two red stars)
?? Wrigley Field Broder - Series 2 Card # 6 maroon Border/oversize Schmidt standing in miniature Wrigley Field)
?? Broder Type Series 1 Card #10 (thin red and blue pinstripe on front border)
1987 Action All-Star #23(white border)
1987 Action Superstars #42 (numbered)
1987 Action Superstars (blue print on back)
1987 Action Superstars Ser. III #57
1987 Broder Rookies #59 of 60
1987 Broder Rookies (Ruben Sierra #1 of 60)
1988 Action Superstars Ser. I #16 of 38
1988 Action Superstars Ser. II #22 of 38
1988 Baseballs Best Ser. II #13
1988 Big League All-Stars Ser. 1 #5
1988 Big League All-Stars Ser. 2 #5
1988 Boston Red Sox #5 of 8 (Broder Type)
1988 Class of '88 #28 of 28
1988 Stars of '88 #34 of 34
1989 Action Superstars #18
1989 Action Superstars Ser. I #18
1989 All Sports Superstars Ser. II
1989 Baseballs Best One #20 of 21
1989 Baseballs Best Two #12 of 21
1989 Baseballs Hottest Stars #9(black border)
1989 Baseball's Top Twenty Series I #19
1989 Play Ball '89 #7(black w/red border)
1989 Classic Baseball Superstars Series II #33
1989 Golden Superstars #21 of 25 (orange border)
1989 Major League All Stars Ser. 2 #3 of 8 (green background with black stars)
1989 Major League Superstars #10 of 24 (blue background w/black stars)
1989 Mn Twins Broder #17 of 21(rounded edges)


1989 Pacific Cards & Comics #17 (grey/oval border)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics #2 (black border w/thin yellow line)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics #3 ( black border/American flag background)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics #8 (bordeless/swinging and going opposite field)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics Action Superstar MN TWINS #5
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics All-Star(black w/ red star) # 9 of 12
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics BIG LEAGUE ALL-STARS #4
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics Ser. I #10 (blue border)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics Ser. II #2 (green border)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics Superstars #1 (orange border)
1989 Pacific Cards & Comics Superstars #3 (yellow)
1989 Preview #11 of 20 (Broder)
1989 Singles Superstars #21 of 21
1989 Starbrite Superstars #15 of 21 (rounded corners)
1989 Superstar Sluggers #9(black border)
1989 Windy City Superstars #5
1990 Action Superstars #9 of 10
1990 All-Sports Superstars Ser. II(green border)
1990 All-Sports Superstars Ser. III
1990 All-Sports Superstars Ser. IV
1990 Baseballs Hottest Hitters (pink &black w/starred border)
1990 Baseballs Hottest Stars(pink border w/Stars)
1990 Big League All Stars MVP #5 of 10
1990 Jose Limited Broder (pink border)
1990 Living Legends (broder type/orange border)
1990 Rookie Superstars #11 of 12
1990 Shanks Collection #31
1990 Sports Superstars #5 of 14
1990 Star Prospects Ser. II #19 of 20
1990 Star Series #4 of 9 (orange)
1990 Super Star Elite(Easter Egg Border)
1990 Super Star Elite(green)
1991 American Sports Monthly #17(gold)
1992 American Sports Monthly #44(black border)
1992 American Sports Monthly (blue border)
 

DaClyde

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Thanks the extra descriptions will help tremendously! Any chance you could attach some player names to that post?
 
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