why do people think there card is better than others?

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Currently 6 Carlton auto'd cards on ebay for $50 with "make an offer" option.

If you're serious about figuring this out why not tell us which one it is ? :confused::confused::confused:

Because I am not talking just about this one dealer. I'm talking about a lot of people on e-bay that do this. That's why this one card is irrelevant. I was just asking why people do this. not just this one guy.
 
Currently 6 Carlton auto'd cards on ebay for $50 with "make an offer" option.

If you're serious about figuring this out why not tell us which one it is ? :confused::confused::confused:

He also said that there is the same card at a BIN of $30. That narrowed it down alot for me, but he said it wasn't the Goodwin Carlton auto, which fit those 2 criteria. Nothing else fits.
I'd like to help the guy understand the sellers thinking, but with limited info, there is only so much we can do.
 
Perhaps a fear that if the card is identified, someone will buy it? Who knows.

I agree that many dealers do this, but since a specific example was made, I think several people would like to see the facts and investigate this seller. I'm mildly curious, but not enough to worry about it.
 
Because I am not talking just about this one dealer. I'm talking about a lot of people on e-bay that do this. That's why this one card is irrelevant. I was just asking why people do this. not just this one guy.

grouping people together on one behavior is not going to get you anywhere. Every one of them could have a different answer. Just like someone asking why so many grown men (and women) get so worked up about little cardboard rectangles, or why the same people that need to negotiate and work someone down for every card they buy can go to a gas station or grocery store and drop 2-8x that much or more without bringing in a coupon, a competitors ad to ask about price matching, or ask for a cash discount. People everywhere constantly do things that make no sense to other people.
 
I've tried selling a set because I could definitely use the money. The set books at over 3000 dollars and I use that as a beginning gauge for a sale price. I'm not uppity enough to hawk it for 3000, despite me never seeing a listing of the same set on e-bay. Maybe my research is not adequate enough to find it long enough ago. But there are cards in the set valued at 30 that sell as high as 50. There are some in the set valued at 3 that sell as low as 1.00 plus free shipping. If I had to guess a tag to buy all cards in the set, it would be about 2200 bucks. I've listed the set at 2000 and again at 1800. Both times I've gotten as high as 10 watchers, but no bids. Every question went to me asked about breaking up the set because they didn't care.

It's a set I love and don't mind keeping. I really could use the money to put to bed the rest of my set needs and player collection. It also cost me about 1200 - bought/traded mostly before the explosion - to put that set together. So I'm not going to drop it to 1500. I'd rather keep it at that point.

Point is that there is some value of cards to the sellers. They either bought them high and don't want to lose money; have some sense of value where they will only sell if it makes sense to sell; or they may have some other reason.

I sold a Markakis auto triple relic that booked at 40 for 10 just because I felt like moving it. There's another card that books at 15 but has not been posted for sale on any online site I've been on (COMC, Amazon, Beckett, ebay) so I put it up for 25 OBO. No offers. I figured that would happen, but I also know the run of those cards are much lower than led to believe - they are not serial numbered but Beckett had rumored them to be of about 25-50 print run back in 1995 - as many people think there are hundreds o them out there.

Maybe this Carlton falls in one of these categories?


-Justin
 
Sets and lots suffer from the same problem. I'd guess that MOST people only want a small part of the lot or singles from the set, either to complete their own set or they are team/player/star collectors. People often don't just decide they want a $1000+ set and go buy one, complete. Most will have some and work from there or try to build it from scratch themselves.

I see expensive sets listed on ebay all the time, sets that had to cost serious money to complete. I cringe at some of the prices, but think that singles could possibly outsell the entire set. Those almost have to be broken up to make it financially worth it though, but some people want the set to remain a set.

You can get some of your best deals buying larger lots and paying a little more than you wanted, pulling out what you did want and trying to part out the rest.

I've tried selling a set because I could definitely use the money. The set books at over 3000 dollars and I use that as a beginning gauge for a sale price. I'm not uppity enough to hawk it for 3000, despite me never seeing a listing of the same set on e-bay. Maybe my research is not adequate enough to find it long enough ago. But there are cards in the set valued at 30 that sell as high as 50. There are some in the set valued at 3 that sell as low as 1.00 plus free shipping. If I had to guess a tag to buy all cards in the set, it would be about 2200 bucks. I've listed the set at 2000 and again at 1800. Both times I've gotten as high as 10 watchers, but no bids. Every question went to me asked about breaking up the set because they didn't care.

It's a set I love and don't mind keeping. I really could use the money to put to bed the rest of my set needs and player collection. It also cost me about 1200 - bought/traded mostly before the explosion - to put that set together. So I'm not going to drop it to 1500. I'd rather keep it at that point.

Point is that there is some value of cards to the sellers. They either bought them high and don't want to lose money; have some sense of value where they will only sell if it makes sense to sell; or they may have some other reason.

I sold a Markakis auto triple relic that booked at 40 for 10 just because I felt like moving it. There's another card that books at 15 but has not been posted for sale on any online site I've been on (COMC, Amazon, Beckett, ebay) so I put it up for 25 OBO. No offers. I figured that would happen, but I also know the run of those cards are much lower than led to believe - they are not serial numbered but Beckett had rumored them to be of about 25-50 print run back in 1995 - as many people think there are hundreds o them out there.

Maybe this Carlton falls in one of these categories?


-Justin
 
Sometimes, with set sales, the seller has put a ton of time & effort into building it and might be resistant to selling it at a discount. Sometimes they fear the set will be bought & parted out by the buyer immediately, and the very thought causes them to resist any reasonable offers.
I've never disagreed with the thought that there are so many different types of sellers, with just as many different ways of selling, LOL. I was just really curious about Bongos experience- if it is indeed a $50 card, why would a seller decline a $18 offer, taking into consideration the seemingly endless supply of Carlton auto's available on Ebay, some at $25 BINs. Would a counteroffer of $20 have gotten the deal done? it's just be interestingly to see the sellers history as to how they deal.
 
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